Curse

fusion101 · Jan 02, 2008, 12:05 PM // 12:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by dasullybear

Lol, whats your max hp?

Even with 330hp you should be able to survive.

Ashamed to day....431

After i made a few tweaks to the build i can kill rekoff, just depends if am paying enough attention :S

dasullybear · Jan 02, 2008, 01:00 PM // 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusion101

Ashamed to day....431

After i made a few tweaks to the build i can kill rekoff, just depends if am paying enough attention :S

Paying attention helps

fusion101 · Jan 02, 2008, 01:06 PM // 13:06

Indeed it does.

The other day i went with a e/a to see how quick it was, god it is fast. The thing that anoyed me most about the experience is that she got a ele sword

Abonai Laguna · Jan 02, 2008, 02:00 PM // 14:00

This one Works fine

Kaleena · Jan 02, 2008, 04:59 PM // 16:59

The build I run is as follows :
Stoneflesh aura, Armor of earth, Glyph of elemental power, Magnetic Aura
Sliver Armor, Channeling, Mantra of Resolve, and Air of Superiority (better) OR Ether Feast

points :
9 fast cast (8+1)
14 inspiration (10+4)
12 earth

The build is simple to use, aggro all the cave (with all enchants except Sliver armor), finishing with the boss group. Then cast Sliver armor attacking the boss with a spear/staff so that he doesn't break aggro.

I strongly recommend to aggro mobs along a wall (on their left) so that they can't run away

S_Serpent · Jan 03, 2008, 10:02 AM // 10:02

S_Serpent's modification to the Advanced build = Super Crazy Rekoff Kill Build :P

Major changes: no using of magnetic aura, addition of Glyph of Renewal (E) for a perma sliver armor build

and dropping the snare, so you have the self heal again and a blind. Even with the snare rekoff could run away, without killing her.

The Build:

- Mantra of Resolve
- Stoneflesh Aura
- Armor of Earth
- Channeling
- Glyph of Renewal (Elite) (my modification)
- Sliver Armor
- Blinding Flash
- Ether Feast (modification to add the self heal again)

Attributes:
I'm only using one superior rune anymore since you waste to much HP if you use two to the pity low benefit you might get from it.

Earth-12+1+3 (earth headpiece + superior earth rune)
Inspiration-9
Energy storage-8+1 (minor energy rune)
Air Magic-5 (you could add a minor air rune here but so far I didn't need it)

Equipment:
Insignias are as you wish, really, blessed is good, radiant is good, ...
Superior Vigor rune on you armor
One handed melee weapon is what I prefer with 20% longer enchant and either +5 Energy or faster casting 10%
Offhand: Hajok's Prism (HSR 20% ; +30 hp)

Usage:
The same as the guru advanced build usage, where you you aggro all nestlings in the cave and when you have them all aggro'ed you head for rekoff, cast blinding flash on her (why this is helpfull should be self explanitory) and renewal + sliver for perma sliver.

Now for the reasons its "advanced":
1: The general way this build is best used is better shaped towards someone who has used the previous build allot. You are basically aggroeing the 2 nestling groups as fast as possible then moving along to rekoff - this build is alot faster-paced.
2: You are also facing 120 life stealing + deep wound and bleeding needless to say thats still unnerving. And tricky if rekoff runs off, but her it will come to experience in this run, there are two way of a good rekoff pull and aggro.
3: With the above spike caused by rekoff, you have to be experienced with the use of sliver armor in order too kill her fast enough to survive. Please refer too the below posts, guildmaster caine and others have provided very usefull information regarding the use of sliver armor and various aggro tricks, please also read the notes of this: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Sliver_Armor

Triggering Sliver on Rekoff (my personal opinion):
1° you wait until rekoff is in front of her group and you aggro then, so she get body blocked between her group and the nestlings you already have in aggro.
2° you aggro the rekoff group where the boss is not the closest, but and this is very tricky make sure your not body blocked in the nestlings so that when rekoff runs off you can auto follow her, the more run you do the better you will become.

NOTES/THINGS TO REMEMBER:

--Stoneflesh, armor of earth, mantra of resolve, and channeling are to be on you at all times. Dont just use them when the guide says, use when necessary.

--There is a chance that sliver armor will target the broodmother too late, and there wont be enough raptor aggro left too kill her before she can run away. She will stay away, run in and use twisting jaws, then run away again. Use ether feast too negate twisting as long as possible (it wont work forever). Just follow her like mention in 2° Triggering Sliver on Rekoff

--Remember you lose 6 energy every time a raptor tried to interrupt you. Bear in mind stoneflesh will be a major hassle as with the 2sec cast time.

--Also remember channeling works only when the enemies are near you. If you are gathering aggro, stop, let the raptors catch up, then cast your spell.

--Use the 1 sec cast time spells for energy, as they are hard too try to interrupt with 1 sec cast time.

--When you aggro a new group REMEMBER that every raptor in that group has disrupting stab ready, if you cast stoneflesh when a new aggro gets to you, you're most likely screwed. You're energy will super spike down, ending mantra of resolve, and stoneflesh wont finish.

--Even the 1 sec cast times can be E-Spiked with a new aggro. Try to give a few seconds after a new aggro to let the raptors use they're disrupting stabs.

--If you get surrounded by raptors (cant move) try /stuck, if that doesnt work, just use ward/sliver early and try your best too take down the broodmother. Although its unlikely to do so.

--Keep moving to avoid getting cornered.

--Also timing off your skills is important, before you aggro the rekoff group you should always just have renewed your mantra and enchants to be able to prevail in this farm.

Abonai Laguna · Jan 03, 2008, 11:14 AM // 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by S_Serpent

Originally Posted by S_Serpent
S_Serpent's modification to the Advanced build = Super Crazy Rekoff Kill Build :P

Major changes: no using of magnetic aura, addition of Glyph of Renewal (E) for a perma sliver armor build and dropping the snare, so you have the self heal again and a blind. Even with the snare rekoff could run away, without killing her.

The Build:

- Mantra of Resolve
- Stoneflesh Aura
- Armor of Earth
- Channeling
- Glyph of Renewal (Elite) (my modification)
- Sliver Armor
- Blinding Flash
- Ether Feast (modification to add the self heal again)

Attributes:
I'm only using one superior rune anymore since you waste to much HP if you use two to the pity low benefit you might get from it.

Earth-12+1+3 (earth headpiece + superior earth rune)
Inspiration-9
Energy storage-8+1 (minor energy rune)
Air Magic-5 (you could add a minor air rune here but so far I didn't need it)

Equipment:
Insignias are as you wish, really, blessed is good, radiant is good, ...
Superior Vigor rune on you armor
One handed melee weapon is what I prefer with 20% longer enchant and either +5 Energy or faster casting 10%
Offhand: Hajok's Prism (HSR 20% ; +30 hp)

Usage:
The same as the guru advanced build usage, where you you aggro all nestlings in the cave and when you have them all aggro'ed you head for rekoff, cast blinding flash on her (why this is helpfull should be self explanitory) and renewal + sliver for perma sliver.

Now for the reasons its "advanced":
2: You are also facing 120 life stealing + deep wound and bleeding needless to say thats still unnerving. And tricky if rekoff runs off, but her it will come to experience in this run, there are two way of a good rekoff pull and aggro.

Triggering Sliver on Rekoff (my personal opinion):
1° you wait until rekoff is in front of her group and you aggro then, so she get body blocked between her group and the nestlings you already have in aggro.
2° you aggro the rekoff group where the boss is not the closest, but and this is very tricky make sure your not body blocked in the nestlings so that when rekoff runs off you can auto follow her, the more run you do the better you will become.

NOTES/THINGS TO REMEMBER:

--There is a chance that sliver armor will target the broodmother too late, and there wont be enough raptor aggro left too kill her before she can run away. She will stay away, run in and use twisting jaws, then run away again. Use ether feast too negate twisting as long as possible (it wont work forever). Just follow her like mention in 2° Triggering Sliver on Rekoff

--Also timing off your skills is important, before you aggro the rekoff group you should always just have renewed your mantra and enchants to be able to prevail in this farm.

I tried it, but I do prefer the other build, since I find it easier to handle

dasullybear · Jan 03, 2008, 11:22 AM // 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by S_Serpent

S_Serpent's modification to the Advanced build = Super Crazy Rekoff Kill Build :P

Major changes: no using of magnetic aura, addition of Glyph of Renewal (E) for a perma sliver armor build

and dropping the snare, so you have the self heal again and a blind. Even with the snare rekoff could run away, without killing her.

The Build:

- Mantra of Resolve
- Stoneflesh Aura
- Armor of Earth
- Channeling
- Glyph of Renewal (Elite) (my modification)
- Sliver Armor
- Blinding Flash
- Ether Feast (modification to add the self heal again)

Attributes:
I'm only using one superior rune anymore since you waste to much HP if you use two to the pity low benefit you might get from it.

Earth-12+1+3 (earth headpiece + superior earth rune)
Inspiration-9
Energy storage-8+1 (minor energy rune)
Air Magic-5 (you could add a minor air rune here but so far I didn't need it)

Equipment:
Insignias are as you wish, really, blessed is good, radiant is good, ...
Superior Vigor rune on you armor
One handed melee weapon is what I prefer with 20% longer enchant and either +5 Energy or faster casting 10%
Offhand: Hajok's Prism (HSR 20% ; +30 hp)

Usage:
The same as the guru advanced build usage, where you you aggro all nestlings in the cave and when you have them all aggro'ed you head for rekoff, cast blinding flash on her (why this is helpfull should be self explanitory) and renewal + sliver for perma sliver.

Now for the reasons its "advanced":
2: You are also facing 120 life stealing + deep wound and bleeding needless to say thats still unnerving. And tricky if rekoff runs off, but her it will come to experience in this run, there are two way of a good rekoff pull and aggro.

Triggering Sliver on Rekoff (my personal opinion):
1° you wait until rekoff is in front of her group and you aggro then, so she get body blocked between her group and the nestlings you already have in aggro.
2° you aggro the rekoff group where the boss is not the closest, but and this is very tricky make sure your not body blocked in the nestlings so that when rekoff runs off you can auto follow her, the more run you do the better you will become.

NOTES/THINGS TO REMEMBER:

--There is a chance that sliver armor will target the broodmother too late, and there wont be enough raptor aggro left too kill her before she can run away. She will stay away, run in and use twisting jaws, then run away again. Use ether feast too negate twisting as long as possible (it wont work forever). Just follow her like mention in 2° Triggering Sliver on Rekoff

--Also timing off your skills is important, before you aggro the rekoff group you should always just have renewed your mantra and enchants to be able to prevail in this farm.

Plagiarism!
Just playing.

Well, I honestly dont see the need for perma sliver, after 2 (yours and after rekoff recharges it) Theres only... 5 raptors left? Lol, but if you we're going to throw in elite in here, id definatly say glyph of renewal would be the one.

Im going to make a "community modifications" section, where ill post any modified/changed builds.

So feel free to post how you do the run! Suggestions/improvements are always great.

Thank you for that one I bolded, very important!

*EDIT*
I modified the quote and took out anything you didnt directly modify/change from the guide to save some space, Abonai Laguna please do the same? We're taking up too much space

S_Serpent · Jan 03, 2008, 01:24 PM // 13:24

And the bottom line idea for the build is off course credited to dasullybear

I also want to clarify the reason for the perma sliver thing:
Like mention before the crazy sin boss likes to run off, and sometimes your sliver runs off before it could kill her even if you follow her, there for its been so beneficial for my personal flavour to be able to reapply the sliver and still kill Rekorff.

But it all depends on the way you prefer it actually.

Enjoy, and tx to dasullybear for the general idea, I was playing around with the build. And so its just my preferred one now. Take whatever one you find best or fiddle with it like I did.

Enjoy and have fun

dasullybear · Jan 03, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by S_Serpent

And the bottom line idea for the build is off course credited to dasullybear

I also want to clarify the reason for the perma sliver thing:
Like mention before the crazy sin boss likes to run off, and sometimes your sliver runs off before it could kill her even if you follow her, there for its been so beneficial for my personal flavour to be able to reapply the sliver and still kill Rekorff.

But it all depends on the way you prefer it actually.

Enjoy, and tx to dasullybear for the general idea, I was playing around with the build. And so its just my preferred one now. Take whatever one you find best or fiddle with it like I did.

Enjoy and have fun

Yes, its a very flexible thing. Everyone can just tweak it to however they prefer to do the farm

Sir Seifus Halbred · Jan 03, 2008, 09:26 PM // 21:26

Gah so many builds! "Brain wave overload!" Lol, anyways which one works the best? I still have yet to try the one you sent me ingame dasullybear. My ele is now level 16.

dasullybear · Jan 04, 2008, 12:45 PM // 12:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Seifus Halbred

Gah so many builds! "Brain wave overload!" Lol, anyways which one works the best? I still have yet to try the one you sent me ingame dasullybear. My ele is now level 16.

Id start with the first one in the guide, then just modify/tweak as you get used to the farm.

chamo · Jan 04, 2008, 02:44 PM // 14:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusion101

Indeed it does.

The other day i went with a e/a to see how quick it was, god it is fast. The thing that anoyed me most about the experience is that she got a ele sword

Could that possibly be me? Showed someone the run a few days ago and got an Ele Sword, IGN is Lina Inverse Moo.

On topic: Need to give this build a try, i've been farming ALOT with the e/a version so it could be interesting.

viens87 · Jan 04, 2008, 04:18 PM // 16:18

when u play with E/Me u can get duration of aura 15sec same as recharge ... but when u play with Me/E u get 13sec recharge , thats means 2 sec u r clean .. and this is the monemt when u cant get death

Gl i should try this on my Me/E

fusion101 · Jan 04, 2008, 06:33 PM // 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by chamo

Could that possibly be me? Showed someone the run a few days ago and got an Ele Sword, IGN is Lina Inverse Moo.

On topic: Need to give this build a try, i've been farming ALOT with the e/a version so it could be interesting.

Now i see your name it was you

dont worry i dont hold any grudges

dasullybear · Jan 04, 2008, 09:20 PM // 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by viens87

when u play with E/Me u can get duration of aura 15sec same as recharge ... but when u play with Me/E u get 13sec recharge , thats means 2 sec u r clean .. and this is the monemt when u cant get death

Gl i should try this on my Me/E

I think you're supposed to use Magnetic to cover it, not sure though, ask Kaleena

dasullybear · Jan 04, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusion101

Indeed it does.

The other day i went with a e/a to see how quick it was, god it is fast. The thing that anoyed me most about the experience is that she got a ele sword

E/A is pretty fast...
killing in a glob though mutilates your drops (usually

)

This one gets really fast the more you do it, I pulled a 1:02 run 2 days ago

Im going to work a possible "speed" modificaton for the build, possibly drop the snare/magnetic for a speed boost? Idk, ill be testing the idea

S_Serpent · Jan 05, 2008, 01:54 PM // 13:54

I depends what E/A build your using, I switched to a E/A Earth build not fire and that way it doesn't kill the drop and its still very fast paced.

And aggro the normal raptors too, wiii lots more drops

This morning had a -1 min boss kill with the E/A Earth build and it dropped an elite sin tome

Gotten 5 elite sin tomes the past 5 days I think, only doing a couple of runs each day, remember to switch areas to kill the farm code, it helps

Abedeus · Jan 05, 2008, 04:28 PM // 16:28

So... Anyone tested with Me/E? My Mesmer finished GWEN, but Elementalist is too farm from Raptor Cave...

V Ouch, my bad. Thanks for pointing that out ;p

NuclearDope · Jan 05, 2008, 10:02 PM // 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus

So... Anyone tested with Me/E? My Mesmer finished GWEN, but Elementalist is too farm from Raptor Cave...

Don't mean to sound like an asshole, but christ, read the OP first the Me/E version is there.